Inside Maidana's Game Plan for Mayweather Rematch
Aug 28 2014 12:00 AM
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From episode one of the SHOWTIME docu-series “ALL ACCESS: Mayweather vs. Maidana 2″, an inside look at the Robert Garcia Boxing Academy where Argentine power-puncher Marcos “El Chino” Maidana recalls how he was outpointed by Floyd Mayweather, and devises a game plan for their September 13 rematch.

ALL ACCESS: Mayweather vs. Maidana 2 premieres Saturday, Aug. 30 at 9:30pm ET/PT on SHOWTIME.

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The Commish says:

No fight against $$$May is an easy fight. Maidana found that out in their first battle. Reports from both camps tell me this: $$$May looks as good as he has in the past. Not better, not worse. The same. Well, the same has gotten him to 46-0.

Reports from the Maidana camp have told me Maidana looks better than he did back in May, when he gave $$$May one of his toughest fights. Not the same. Not worse. Better.

He is doing more of everything. Running. Sparring. Floor work. Jump rope. Mitt work. Calisthenics. Situps. Pushups. Heqavy bag work. Speed bag work..Plyometrics. Everything. This time, he doesn't plan on slowing down. He plans to start fast, set a very fast pace and stay in that gear.

It is certainly easier to want to do that and train to do that than actually be able to when the bell rings and all the training becomes reality, when your “dancing partner” is no longer your sparring partner but the man regarded–as we do right here in our PxP Ratings–as the best fighter in the world.

Can Maidana do what he is training to do? Can he pour the pressure on and keep it on? Will it be effective pressure or just wasted energy?

Can $$$May make the rematch an easier fight–as he says he will–by staying in ring center, instead of on the ropes?

It's Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier in another fight, welterweight version.

But will it be Ali-Frazier II or Ali-Frazier III?

This time, will Frazier win?

-Randy G.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62359]No fight against $$$May is an easy fight. Maidana found that out in their first battle. Reports from both camps tell me this: $$$May looks as good as he has in the past. Not better, not worse. The same. Well, the same has gotten him to 46-0.

Reports from the Maidana camp have told me Maidana looks better than he did back in May, when he gave $$$May one of his toughest fights. Not the same. Not worse. Better.

He is doing more of everything. Running. Sparring. Floor work. Jump rope. Mitt work. Calisthenics. Situps. Pushups. Heqavy bag work. Speed bag work..Plyometrics. Everything. This time, he doesn't plan on slowing down. He plans to start fast, set a very fast pace and stay in that gear.

It is certainly easier to want to do that and train to do that than actually be able to when the bell rings and all the training becomes reality, when your “dancing partner” is no longer your sparring partner but the man regarded–as we do right here in our PxP Ratings–as the best fighter in the world.

Can Maidana do what he is training to do? Can he pour the pressure on and keep it on? Will it be effective pressure or just wasted energy?

Can $$$May make the rematch an easier fight–as he says he will–by staying in ring center, instead of on the ropes?

It's Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier in another fight, welterweight version.

But will it be Ali-Frazier II or Ali-Frazier III?

This time, will Frazier win?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Despite all the extra stuff he's doing, he will fade by the fourth round.

I promise you.

All the extra workouts, gas masks and hyperbaric chambers won't compensate for the absence of the key ingredient, the sweetest science of them all.

He will feel the body shots and he will fade. Once he does, it's a wrap.

Garcia will rescue his fighter. Eighth round stoppage. Ten at most.

Damnatio ad bestias.

oubobcat says:

[QUOTE=The Shadow;62394]Despite all the extra stuff he's doing, he will fade by the fourth round.

I promise you.

All the extra workouts, gas masks and hyperbaric chambers won't compensate for the absence of the key ingredient, the sweetest science of them all.

He will feel the body shots and he will fade. Once he does, it's a wrap.

Garcia will rescue his fighter. Eighth round stoppage. Ten at most.

Damnatio ad bestias.[/QUOTE]

I don't see Mayweather getting a stoppage here but agree Maidana will start to fade and do so early. I see him going gangbusters in the first couple rounds, more so than the first fight, and the pace start slowing considerably as Shadow said around the 4th. Mayweather may lose a few early rounds but takes control and cruises to a more decisive victory this time around.

The Commish says:

[QUOTE=The Shadow;62394]Despite all the extra stuff he's doing, he will fade by the fourth round.

I promise you.

All the extra workouts, gas masks and hyperbaric chambers won't compensate for the absence of the key ingredient, the sweetest science of them all.

He will feel the body shots and he will fade. Once he does, it's a wrap.

Garcia will rescue his fighter. Eighth round stoppage. Ten at most.

Damnatio ad bestias.[/QUOTE]

The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.

Radam G says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62485]The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

I'm riding with Money May in a close, repeat performance. Neither he nor Chino will do much of anything new. You will get action more action from rain dew. Holla!

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62485]The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely. He can train harder but he can't get in better shape. It's impossible. He showed near super human endurance the last time out.

I made the point on the air last night and I'm going to make the point more elaborately now. This may be a little long so forgive me.

The gist of it is this: when a guy goes all out to stop someone, you expend a lot of energy. Now if a guy is going for the kill, throwing lots of punches with force [B]WHILE getting stabbed[/B]?

He will be spent in less than five rounds. It's a physiological impossibility for it NOT to happen.

I repeat: it's a physiological impossibility for it not to happen!

For those reading wondering what I mean by “stabbed,” I came across this video today of Bernard Hopkins explaining exactly what it is and what it does.

At about the four minute mark — [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb67S8F2PTc — Hopkins discusses what's going on when a guy comes in unloading with the kitchen sink.

“Everybody getting all crazy in the audience, thinking you're doing something,” he says. “But the reality is, I'm stabbing you. And these 10 ounces (gloves) touching you here and touching you there…

“You're excited because you're throwing punches but when you go back to your corner and you come back out for the next two or three rounds? (Bernard grimaces, holding his stomach.) Now you're hesitant. And once I see that, I just pick you apart.”

This is EXACTLY what happened to Shane Mosley vs. Mayweather. To the untrained eye, what transpired in that fight was called anything from a fix to Shane being shot.

Neither were true. Mosley simply caught Mayweather, got greedy, blew his load, got stabbed WHILE blowing it.

(This is ESPECIALLY hard to understand for someone who's never been an athlete, let alone been in the ring.)

Furthermore, as Mosley continued to go to the well with the same tactic that stunned Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted his defense, his offense and his defense-to-offense transitions.

In practice, starting from the 3rd round on, he made Mosley tentative/discouraged him from opening up frivolously by landing crisp counter shots up top while Mosley was still stuck on Plan A.

This made Mosley think twice and wait for the perfect opening, something all too common in Mayweather fights. “Shane!” his coach cried. “You're fadin' on me, man. You're looking for the perfect shot. There IS NONE!”

“He made the adjustment,” Mosley said. “And I couldn't adjust to his adjustment.”

With very, very few exceptions, guys in good shape can throw around 40-50 punches per round over the course of 12 rounds without exceeding their reservoir of oxygen.

This is why world class guys don't just run over and let their hands go until the other guy drops. Because he will tire out and the opponent will come back and hurt you — or, as Hopkins says, pick you apart.

[B]Stabbing Ricky[/B]
Mayweather employed the exact same thing against Ricky Hatton.

He stabbed him in close in between Ricky's mauling, stabbed him, stabbed him, stabbed. All fight, all night. The punches looked harmless, especially to the untrained eye.

But they ultimately set up the knockout, which started in the eighth round. Manny Steward even said it on the air. Go back and look. “One thing Ricky cannot afford is to get tired because if he ever gets tired, Mayweather will explode and take him out,” Steward said.

Or pick him apart, as B-Hop calls it. Ironically, as Steward says this, Mayweather is tapping Ricky with seemingly harmless taps underneath.

Then TWO seconds later, Mayweather connects with a check hook that revealed both Hatton's mental and physical fatigue, leading to Mayweather unloading with what LOOKED like a 19-punch combination.

In reality, it was 19 meticulously measured pot shots in succession, all aimed up top after stabbing him below all night.

This set up the final knockout blow as Mayweather, the superior tactician, goaded him into the very same spot where he hit him in the 8th round. Only this time, he didn't recover…

[B]Stabbing and ripping[/B]
Now there's a difference between getting stabbed and getting ripped. In the last fight, Mayweather didn't just stab him, he [I]ripped[/I] him.

One is a tap, the other is a full-force blow. Just brutal.

Now, Maidana is notoriously vulnerable to the body. This is why Mayweather felt so comfortable going into the fight without a game plan. He could languish on the ropes, let the guy shoot his load, rip him underneath and stop him. That was the plan.

So when Maidana came out firing, Mayweather simply stayed composed and ripped him. He fully expected to stop him.

So when I was watching Mayweather stand there, I was watching his work underneath very, very carefully. There's so much subtle sh*t going on in there, mental warfare, mind games.

Whatever people think, Mayweather doesn't go on the ropes — or do anything in life, really — unless he feels comfortable doing so. In the ring, if he's uncomfortable, he'll either start moving/running, start smothering you with his forearm or even go across your throat.

(Case in point Canelo Alvarez. When Canelo gets you on the ropes, he will hit you. So he wasn't going to let that happen.)

Now I was watching Maidana go berzerk on Mayweather. But I also saw Mayweather rip him — not stab, RIP! — with some VICIOUS body shots underneath in the manner B-Hop explains.

I was fully expecting Maidana to crumble any second. I don't care how brittle the hands are, those shots were evil because they were landing [B]in between[/B] Maidana's nuclear bombs as he exhaled.

(By comparison, Maidana landed some vicious blows also but they landed while Floyd were defending, not in between his shots.)

Yet… nothing happened. I could see in Floyd's eyes that he was wondering what the F was going on.

As I mentioned, it is a physiological impossibility for you to unload those heavy bombs while getting punched in the gut without fading. It's impossible.

I expected Maidana's fatigue to kick in around the fourth round. Yes, they're world class athletes so the fade isn't as apparent (especially since guys usually fade at the same pace).

In Floyd fights, the telltale sign is usually punches losing about 5-10% of their speed, snap, accuracy while Mayweather's sharpness remains intact.

This is basically how he wins. You drop off, he pulls away. One-sided “action.” Yawn.

However I didn't see any drop-off until the 8th round (!), which is why I sat and scratched my head and looked in amazement at what Maidana was pulling off!

Commish, this is why I said on the air that Maidana was in phenomenal condition. He could probably have run a marathon that night. It was an incredible display.

And as I said in my post-fight post, Maidana impressed me tremendously with his fight plan, his resolve, and his skill. I also said his stamina impressed me just a [I]little[/I] too much.

Honestly, I was wondering whether he had trained for Floyd Landis instead of Floyd Mayweather.

Now back to why I think he will fade around the fourth this time.

Like I said, my jaw dropped in amazement, which led me to digging. My digging led me to a mysterious mistress named Missy.

Missy is no longer around.

Once I found out she wasn't, this is when I came directly into these here parts and predicted a vicious, bloody massacre of the likes which we haven't seen since the fall of the temple of Jerusalem.

To compensate for the loss of his little boo thang, according to our sources out west, Maidana's training harder than ever. He's wearing gas masks, he's artificially manipulating the air, he's sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, he's doing the Macarena in Speedos when the Earth hits a 40 degree axis shift and he's got a new strength trainer that got him doing Commish-like push-ups.

[QUOTE=The Commish;62485]The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely. He can train harder but he can't get in better shape. It's impossible. He showed near super human endurance the last time out.

I made the point on the air last night and I'm going to make the point more elaborately now. This may be a little long so forgive me.

The gist of it is this: when a guy goes all out to stop someone, you expend a lot of energy. Now if a guy is going for the kill, throwing lots of punches with force [B]WHILE getting stabbed[/B]?

He will be spent in less than five rounds. It's a physiological impossibility for it NOT to happen.

I repeat: it's a physiological impossibility for it not to happen!

For those reading wondering what I mean by “stabbed,” I came across this video today of Bernard Hopkins explaining exactly what it is and what it does.

At about the four minute mark — [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb67S8F2PTc — Hopkins discusses what's going on when a guy comes in unloading with the kitchen sink.

“Everybody getting all crazy in the audience, thinking you're doing something,” he says. “But the reality is, I'm stabbing you. And these 10 ounces (gloves) touching you here and touching you there…

“You're excited because you're throwing punches but when you go back to your corner and you come back out for the next two or three rounds? (Bernard grimaces, holding his stomach.) Now you're hesitant. And once I see that, I just pick you apart.”

This is EXACTLY what happened to Shane Mosley vs. Mayweather. To the untrained eye, what transpired in that fight was called anything from a fix to Shane being shot.

Neither were true. Mosley simply caught Mayweather, got greedy, blew his load, got stabbed WHILE blowing it.

(This is ESPECIALLY hard to understand for someone who's never been an athlete, let alone been in the ring.)

Furthermore, as Mosley continued to go to the well with the same tactic that stunned Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted his defense, his offense and his defense-to-offense transitions.

In practice, starting from the 3rd round on, he made Mosley tentative/discouraged him from opening up frivolously by landing crisp counter shots up top while Mosley was still stuck on Plan A.

This made Mosley think twice and wait for the perfect opening, something all too common in Mayweather fights. “Shane!” his coach cried. “You're fadin' on me, man. You're looking for the perfect shot. There IS NONE!”

“He made the adjustment,” Mosley said. “And I couldn't adjust to his adjustment.”

With very, very few exceptions, guys in good shape can throw around 40-50 punches per round over the course of 12 rounds without exceeding their reservoir of oxygen.

This is why world class guys don't just run over and let their hands go until the other guy drops. Because he will tire out and the opponent will come back and hurt you — or, as Hopkins says, pick you apart.

[B]Stabbing Ricky[/B]
Mayweather employed the exact same thing against Ricky Hatton.

He stabbed him in close in between Ricky's mauling, stabbed him, stabbed him, stabbed. All fight, all night. The punches looked harmless, especially to the untrained eye.

But they ultimately set up the knockout, which started in the eighth round. Manny Steward even said it on the air. Go back and look. “One thing Ricky cannot afford is to get tired because if he ever gets tired, Mayweather will explode and take him out,” Steward said.

Or pick him apart, as B-Hop calls it. Ironically, as Steward says this, Mayweather is tapping Ricky with seemingly harmless taps underneath.

Then TWO seconds later, Mayweather connects with a check hook that revealed both Hatton's mental and physical fatigue, leading to Mayweather unloading with what LOOKED like a 19-punch combination.

In reality, it was 19 meticulously measured pot shots in succession, all aimed up top after stabbing him below all night.

This set up the final knockout blow as Mayweather, the superior tactician, goaded him into the very same spot where he hit him in the 8th round. Only this time, he didn't recover…

[B]Stabbing and ripping[/B]
Now there's a difference between getting stabbed and getting ripped. In the last fight, Mayweather didn't just stab him, he [I]ripped[/I] him.

One is a tap, the other is a full-force blow. Just brutal.

Now, Maidana is notoriously vulnerable to the body. This is why Mayweather felt so comfortable going into the fight without a game plan. He could languish on the ropes, let the guy shoot his load, rip him underneath and stop him. That was the plan.

So when Maidana came out firing, Mayweather simply stayed composed and ripped him. He fully expected to stop him.

So when I was watching Mayweather stand there, I was watching his work underneath very, very carefully. There's so much subtle sh*t going on in there, mental warfare, mind games.

Whatever people think, Mayweather doesn't go on the ropes — or do anything in life, really — unless he feels comfortable doing so. In the ring, if he's uncomfortable, he'll either start moving/running, start smothering you with his forearm or even go across your throat.

(Case in point Canelo Alvarez. When Canelo gets you on the ropes, he will hit you. So he wasn't going to let that happen.)

Now I was watching Maidana go berzerk on Mayweather. But I also saw Mayweather rip him — not stab, RIP! — with some VICIOUS body shots underneath in the manner B-Hop explains.

I was fully expecting Maidana to crumble any second. I don't care how brittle the hands are, those shots were evil because they were landing [B]in between[/B] Maidana's nuclear bombs as he exhaled.

(By comparison, Maidana landed some vicious blows also but they landed while Floyd were defending, not in between his shots.)

Yet… nothing happened. I could see in Floyd's eyes that he was wondering what the F was going on.

As I mentioned, it is a physiological impossibility for you to unload those heavy bombs while getting punched in the gut without fading. It's impossible.

I expected Maidana's fatigue to kick in around the fourth round. Yes, they're world class athletes so the fade isn't as apparent (especially since guys usually fade at the same pace).

In Floyd fights, the telltale sign is usually punches losing about 5-10% of their speed, snap, accuracy while Mayweather's sharpness remains intact.

This is basically how he wins. You drop off, he pulls away. One-sided “action.” Yawn.

However I didn't see any drop-off until the 8th round (!), which is why I sat and scratched my head and looked in amazement at what Maidana was pulling off!

Commish, this is why I said on the air that Maidana was in phenomenal condition. He could probably have run a marathon that night. It was an incredible display.

And as I said in my post-fight post, Maidana impressed me tremendously with his fight plan, his resolve, and his skill. But I also said his stamina impressed me just a [I]little[/I] too much. I honestly wondered whether he had trained for Floyd Landis instead of Floyd Mayweather.

[B]The Mysterious Mistress Named Missy[/B]
Now back to why I think he will fade around the fourth this time.

Like I said, my jaw dropped in amazement, which led me to digging. My digging led me to a mysterious mistress named Missy, introduced to him by a local Cali playboy. Let's call him Friscoe.

I don't know exactly how they met. But after Friscoe hooked them up, Missy supposedly inspired Maidana during camp, willing and propelling him to previously unforeseen heights. Love will make you dig deep.

Missy is no longer around.

Once I found out she wasn't, this is when I came directly into these here parts and predicted a vicious, bloody massacre of the likes which we haven't seen since the fall of the temple of Jerusalem.

To compensate for the loss of his little boo thang, according to our sources out west, Maidana's training harder than ever.

He's got a new strength trainer that got him doing Commish-like push-ups, great! He's wearing silly gas masks, great!

He's artificially manipulating the air, he's sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, he's even doing the Macarena in his Burger King crown and blue Speedos while the Earth is a 40 degree axis!

All well and good. (Love will make you do some strange s***.)

But Missy is no longer there. And to quote Joni Mitchell, “you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.”

So Commish, no matter what he does, he won't be able to replicate what he did before. He will not be in better shape. This is why I predict — no, why I know! — he will fade visibly around the fourth round.

He will get destroyed. Mark my words.

If I'm wrong, I will voluntarily go three rounds with Gerry Cooney, film it and upload for the entire TSS Universe to see.

Pardon the dissertation but this is the sweet, sweet science, not layman's combat. Like Radam always says, there are optical illusions everywhere.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62485]The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely. He can train harder but he can't get in better shape. It's impossible. He showed near super human endurance the last time out.

I made the point on the air last night and I'm going to make the point more elaborately now. This may be a little long so forgive me.

The gist of it is this: when a guy goes all out to stop someone, you expend a lot of energy. Now if a guy is going for the kill, throwing lots of punches with force [U]WHILE getting stabbed? [/U]

He will be spent in less than five rounds. It's a physiological impossibility for it NOT to happen.

I repeat: it's a physiological impossibility for it not to happen!

[B]Getting stabbed[/B]
For those reading wondering what I mean by “stabbed,” I came across this video today of Bernard Hopkins explaining exactly what it is and what it does.

At about the four minute mark — [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb67S8F2PTc — Hopkins discusses what's going on when a guy comes in unloading with the kitchen sink.

“Everybody getting all crazy in the audience, thinking you're doing something,” he says. “But the reality is, I'm stabbing you. And these 10 ounces (gloves) touching you here and touching you there…

“You're excited because you're throwing punches but when you go back to your corner and you come back out for the next two or three rounds? (Bernard grimaces, holding his stomach.) Now you're hesitant. And once I see that, I just pick you apart.”

This is EXACTLY what happened to Shane Mosley vs. Mayweather. To the untrained eye, what transpired in that fight was called anything from a fix to Shane being shot.

Neither were true. Mosley simply caught Mayweather, got greedy, blew his load, got stabbed WHILE blowing it.

(This is ESPECIALLY hard to understand for someone who's never been an athlete, let alone been in the ring.)

Furthermore, as Mosley continued to go to the well with the same tactic that stunned Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted his defense, his offense and his defense-to-offense transitions.

In practice, starting from the 3rd round on, he made Mosley tentative/discouraged him from opening up frivolously by landing crisp counter shots up top while Mosley was still stuck on Plan A.

This made Mosley think twice and wait for the perfect opening, something all too common in Mayweather fights. “Shane!” his coach cried. “You're fadin' on me, man. You're looking for the perfect shot. There IS NONE!”

“He made the adjustment,” Mosley said. “And I couldn't adjust to his adjustment.”

With very, very few exceptions, guys in good shape can throw around 40-50 punches per round over the course of 12 rounds without exceeding their reservoir of oxygen.

This is why world class guys don't just run over and let their hands go until the other guy drops. Because he will tire out and the opponent will come back and hurt you — or, as Hopkins says, pick you apart.

[B]Stabbing Ricky[/B]
Mayweather employed the exact same thing against Ricky Hatton.

He stabbed him in close in between Ricky's mauling, stabbed him, stabbed him, stabbed. All fight, all night. The punches looked harmless, especially to the untrained eye.

But they ultimately set up the knockout, which started in the eighth round. Manny Steward even said it on the air. Go back and look. “One thing Ricky cannot afford is to get tired because if he ever gets tired, Mayweather will explode and take him out,” Steward said.

Or pick him apart, as B-Hop calls it. Ironically, as Steward says this, Mayweather is tapping Ricky with seemingly harmless taps underneath.

Then TWO seconds later, Mayweather connects with a check hook that revealed both Hatton's mental and physical fatigue, leading to Mayweather unloading with what LOOKED like a 19-punch combination.

In reality, it was 19 meticulously measured pot shots in succession, all aimed up top after stabbing him below all night.

This set up the final knockout blow as Mayweather, the superior tactician, goaded him into the very same spot where he hit him in the 8th round. Only this time, he didn't recover…

[B]Stabbing and ripping[/B]
Now there's a difference between getting stabbed and getting ripped. In the last fight, Mayweather didn't just stab him, he ripped him.

One is a tap, the other is a full-force blow. Just brutal.

Now, Maidana is notoriously vulnerable to the body. This is why Mayweather felt so comfortable going into the fight without a game plan. He could languish on the ropes, let the guy shoot his load, rip him underneath and stop him. That was the plan.

So when Maidana came out firing, Mayweather simply stayed composed and ripped him. He fully expected to stop him.

So when I was watching Mayweather stand there, I was watching his work underneath very, very carefully. There's so much subtle sh*t going on in there, mental warfare, mind games.

Whatever people think, Mayweather doesn't go on the ropes — or do anything in life, really — unless he feels comfortable doing so. In the ring, if he's uncomfortable, he'll either start moving/running, start smothering you with his forearm or even go across your throat.

(Case in point Canelo Alvarez. When Canelo gets you on the ropes, he will hit you. So he wasn't going to let that happen.)

Now I was watching Maidana go berzerk on Mayweather. But I also saw Mayweather rip him — not stab, RIP! — with some VICIOUS body shots underneath in the manner B-Hop explains.

I was fully expecting Maidana to crumble any second. I don't care how brittle the hands are, those shots were evil because they were landing in between Maidana's nuclear bombs as he exhaled.

(By comparison, Maidana landed some vicious blows also but they landed while Floyd were defending, not in between his shots.)

Yet… nothing happened. I could see in Floyd's eyes that he was wondering what the F was going on.

As I mentioned, it is a physiological impossibility for you to unload those heavy bombs while getting punched in the gut without fading. It's impossible.

I expected Maidana's fatigue to kick in around the fourth round. Yes, they're world class athletes so the fade isn't as apparent (especially since guys usually fade at the same pace).

In Floyd fights, the telltale sign is usually punches losing about 5-10% of their speed, snap, accuracy while Mayweather's sharpness remains intact.

This is basically how he wins. You drop off, he pulls away. One-sided “action.” Yawn.

However I didn't see any drop-off until the 8th round (!), which is why I sat and scratched my head and looked in amazement at what Maidana was pulling off!

Commish, this is why I said on the air that Maidana was in phenomenal condition. He could probably have run a marathon that night. It was an incredible display.

And as I said in my post-fight post, Maidana impressed me tremendously with his fight plan, his resolve, and his skill. But I also said his stamina impressed me just a little too much. I honestly wondered whether he had trained for Floyd Landis instead of Floyd Mayweather.

[B]The Mysterious Mistress Named Missy[/B]
Now back to why I think he will fade around the fourth this time.

Like I said, my jaw dropped in amazement, which led me to digging. My digging led me to a mysterious mistress named Missy, introduced to him by a local Cali playboy. Let's call him Friscoe.

I don't know exactly how they met. But after Friscoe hooked them up, Missy supposedly inspired Maidana during camp, willing and propelling him to previously unforeseen heights. Love will make you dig deep.

Missy is no longer around.

Once I found out she wasn't, this is when I came directly into these here parts and predicted a vicious, bloody massacre of the likes which we haven't seen since the fall of the temple of Jerusalem.

To compensate for the loss of his little boo thang, according to our sources out west, Maidana's training harder than ever.

He's got a new strength trainer that got him doing Commish-like push-ups, great! He's wearing silly gas masks, great!

He's artificially manipulating the air, he's sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, he's even doing the Macarena in his Burger King crown and blue Speedos while the Earth is a 40 degree axis!

All well and good. (Love will make you do some strange s***.)

But Missy is no longer there. And to quote Joni Mitchell, “you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.”

So Commish, no matter what he does, he won't be able to replicate what he did before. He will not be in better shape. This is why I predict — no, why I know! — he will fade visibly around the fourth round.

He will get destroyed. Mark my words.

If I'm wrong, I will voluntarily go three rounds with Gerry Cooney, film it and upload for the entire TSS Universe to see.

Pardon the dissertation but this is the sweet, sweet science, not layman's combat. Like Radam always says, there are optical illusions everywhere.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62485]The 4th round?

You see Maidana gassing as early as the 4th round?

Why? He's training even harder than he did for his first go-round with $$$May.

Fourth round?

Will he be fighting $$$May, Kell Brook & Keith Thurman at the same time?

Fourth round?

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely. He can train harder but he can't get in better shape. It's impossible. He showed near super human endurance the last time out.

I made the point on the air last night and I'm going to make the point more elaborately now. This may be a little long so forgive me.

The gist of it is this: when a guy goes all out to stop someone, you expend a lot of energy. Now if a guy is going for the kill, throwing lots of punches with force [U]WHILE getting stabbed? [/U]

He will be spent in less than five rounds. It's a physiological impossibility for it NOT to happen.

I repeat: it's a physiological impossibility for it not to happen!

[B]Getting stabbed[/B]
For those reading wondering what I mean by “stabbed,” I came across this video today of Bernard Hopkins explaining exactly what it is and what it does.

At about the four minute mark — [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb67S8F2PTc — Hopkins discusses what's going on when a guy comes in unloading with the kitchen sink.

“Everybody getting all crazy in the audience, thinking you're doing something,” he says. “But the reality is, I'm stabbing you. And these 10 ounces (gloves) touching you here and touching you there…

“You're excited because you're throwing punches but when you go back to your corner and you come back out for the next two or three rounds? (Bernard grimaces, holding his stomach.) Now you're hesitant. And once I see that, I just pick you apart.”

This is EXACTLY what happened to Shane Mosley vs. Mayweather. To the untrained eye, what transpired in that fight was called anything from a fix to Shane being shot.

Neither were true. Mosley simply caught Mayweather, got greedy, blew his load, got stabbed WHILE blowing it.

(This is ESPECIALLY hard to understand for someone who's never been an athlete, let alone been in the ring.)

Furthermore, as Mosley continued to go to the well with the same tactic that stunned Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted his defense, his offense and his defense-to-offense transitions.

In practice, starting from the 3rd round on, he made Mosley tentative/discouraged him from opening up frivolously by landing crisp counter shots up top while Mosley was still stuck on Plan A.

This made Mosley think twice and wait for the perfect opening, something all too common in Mayweather fights. “Shane!” his coach cried. “You're fadin' on me, man. You're looking for the perfect shot. There IS NONE!”

“He made the adjustment,” Mosley said. “And I couldn't adjust to his adjustment.”

With very, very few exceptions, guys in good shape can throw around 40-50 punches per round over the course of 12 rounds without exceeding their reservoir of oxygen.

This is why world class guys don't just run over and let their hands go until the other guy drops. Because he will tire out and the opponent will come back and hurt you — or, as Hopkins says, pick you apart.

[B]Stabbing Ricky[/B]
Mayweather employed the exact same thing against Ricky Hatton.

He stabbed him in close in between Ricky's mauling, stabbed him, stabbed him, stabbed. All fight, all night. The punches looked harmless, especially to the untrained eye.

But they ultimately set up the knockout, which started in the eighth round.

Manny Steward even said it on the air. Go back and look.

“One thing Ricky cannot afford is to get tired because if he ever gets tired, Mayweather will explode and take him out,” Steward said.

Or pick him apart, as B-Hop calls it. Ironically, as Steward says this, Mayweather is tapping Ricky with seemingly harmless taps underneath.

Then TWO seconds later, Mayweather connects with a check hook that revealed both Hatton's mental and physical fatigue, leading to Mayweather unloading with what LOOKED like a 19-punch combination.

In reality, it was 19 meticulously measured pot shots in succession, all aimed up top after stabbing him below all night.

This set up the final knockout blow as Mayweather, the superior tactician, goaded him into the very same spot where he hit him in the 8th round. Only this time, he didn't recover…

[B]Stabbing and ripping[/B]
Now there's a difference between getting stabbed and getting ripped. In the last fight, Mayweather didn't just stab him, he ripped him.

One is a tap, the other is a full-force blow. Just brutal.

Now, Maidana is notoriously vulnerable to the body. This is why Mayweather felt so comfortable going into the fight without a game plan. He could languish on the ropes, let the guy shoot his load, rip him underneath and stop him. That was the modus operandi.

So when Maidana came out firing, Mayweather simply stayed composed and ripped him. He fully expected to stop him.

So when I was watching Mayweather stand there, I was watching his work underneath very, very carefully. There's so much subtle sh*t going on in there, mental warfare, mind games.

Whatever people think, Mayweather doesn't go on the ropes — or do anything in life, really — unless he feels comfortable doing so. In the ring, if he's uncomfortable, he'll either start moving/running, start smothering you with his forearm or even go across your throat.

(Case in point Canelo Alvarez. When Canelo gets you on the ropes, he will hit you. So he wasn't going to let that happen.)

Now I was watching Maidana go berzerk on Mayweather. But I also saw Mayweather rip him — not stab, RIP! — with some VICIOUS body shots underneath in the manner B-Hop explains.

I was fully expecting Maidana to crumble any second. I don't care how brittle the hands are, those shots were evil because they were landing in between Maidana's nuclear bombs as he exhaled.

(By comparison, Maidana landed some vicious blows also but they landed while Floyd were defending, not in between his shots.)

Yet… nothing happened. I could see in Floyd's eyes that he was wondering what the F was going on.

As I mentioned, it is a physiological impossibility for you to unload those heavy bombs while getting punched in the gut without fading. It's impossible.

I expected Maidana's fatigue to kick in around the fourth round. Yes, they're world class athletes so the fade isn't as apparent (especially since guys usually fade at the same pace).

In Floyd fights, the telltale sign is usually punches losing about 5-10% of their speed, snap, accuracy while Mayweather's sharpness remains intact.

This is basically how he wins. You drop off, he pulls away. One-sided “action.” Yawn.

However I didn't see any drop-off until the 8th round (!), which is why I sat and scratched my head and looked in amazement at what Maidana was pulling off!

Commish, this is why I said on the air that Maidana was in phenomenal condition. He could probably have run a marathon that night. It was an incredible display.

And as I said in my post-fight post, Maidana impressed me tremendously with his fight plan, his resolve, and his skill. But I also said his stamina impressed me just a little too much. I honestly wondered whether he had trained for Floyd Landis instead of Floyd Mayweather.

[B]The Mysterious Mistress Named Missy[/B]
Now back to why I think he will fade around the fourth this time.

Like I said, my jaw dropped in amazement, which led me to digging. My digging led me to a mysterious mistress named Missy, introduced to him by a local Cali playboy. Let's call him Friscoe.

I don't know exactly how they met. But after Friscoe hooked them up, Missy supposedly inspired Maidana during camp, willing and propelling him to previously unforeseen heights. Love will make you dig deep.

Missy is no longer around.

Once I found out she wasn't, this is when I came directly into these here parts and predicted a vicious, bloody massacre of the likes which we haven't seen since the fall of the temple of Jerusalem.

To compensate for the loss of his little boo thang, according to our sources out west, Maidana's training harder than ever.

He's got a new strength trainer that got him doing Commish-like push-ups, great! He's wearing silly gas masks, great!

He's artificially manipulating the air, he's sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, he's even doing the Macarena in his Burger King crown and blue Speedos while the Earth is a 40 degree axis!

All well and good. (Love will make you do some strange s***.)

But Missy is no longer there. And to quote Joni Mitchell, “you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.”

So Commish, no matter what he does, he won't be able to replicate what he did before. He will not be in better shape. This is why I predict — no, why I know! — he will fade visibly around the fourth round.

He will get destroyed. Mark my words.

If I'm wrong, I will voluntarily go three rounds with Gerry Cooney, film it and upload for the entire TSS Universe to see.

Pardon the dissertation but this is the sweet, sweet science, not layman's combat. Like Radam always says, there are optical illusions everywhere.

The Good Doctor says:

[QUOTE=The Shadow;62494]Yes, absolutely. He can train harder but he can't get in better shape. It's impossible. He showed near super human endurance the last time out.

I made the point on the air last night and I'm going to make the point more elaborately now. This may be a little long so forgive me.

The gist of it is this: when a guy goes all out to stop someone, you expend a lot of energy. Now if a guy is going for the kill, throwing lots of punches with force [U]WHILE getting stabbed? [/U]

He will be spent in less than five rounds. It's a physiological impossibility for it NOT to happen.

I repeat: it's a physiological impossibility for it not to happen!

[B]Getting stabbed[/B]
For those reading wondering what I mean by “stabbed,” I came across this video today of Bernard Hopkins explaining exactly what it is and what it does.

At about the four minute mark — [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb67S8F2PTc — Hopkins discusses what's going on when a guy comes in unloading with the kitchen sink.

“Everybody getting all crazy in the audience, thinking you're doing something,” he says. “But the reality is, I'm stabbing you. And these 10 ounces (gloves) touching you here and touching you there…

“You're excited because you're throwing punches but when you go back to your corner and you come back out for the next two or three rounds? (Bernard grimaces, holding his stomach.) Now you're hesitant. And once I see that, I just pick you apart.”

This is EXACTLY what happened to Shane Mosley vs. Mayweather. To the untrained eye, what transpired in that fight was called anything from a fix to Shane being shot.

Neither were true. Mosley simply caught Mayweather, got greedy, blew his load, got stabbed WHILE blowing it.

(This is ESPECIALLY hard to understand for someone who's never been an athlete, let alone been in the ring.)

Furthermore, as Mosley continued to go to the well with the same tactic that stunned Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted his defense, his offense and his defense-to-offense transitions.

In practice, starting from the 3rd round on, he made Mosley tentative/discouraged him from opening up frivolously by landing crisp counter shots up top while Mosley was still stuck on Plan A.

This made Mosley think twice and wait for the perfect opening, something all too common in Mayweather fights. “Shane!” his coach cried. “You're fadin' on me, man. You're looking for the perfect shot. There IS NONE!”

“He made the adjustment,” Mosley said. “And I couldn't adjust to his adjustment.”

With very, very few exceptions, guys in good shape can throw around 40-50 punches per round over the course of 12 rounds without exceeding their reservoir of oxygen.

This is why world class guys don't just run over and let their hands go until the other guy drops. Because he will tire out and the opponent will come back and hurt you — or, as Hopkins says, pick you apart.

[B]Stabbing Ricky[/B]
Mayweather employed the exact same thing against Ricky Hatton.

He stabbed him in close in between Ricky's mauling, stabbed him, stabbed him, stabbed. All fight, all night. The punches looked harmless, especially to the untrained eye.

But they ultimately set up the knockout, which started in the eighth round.

Manny Steward even said it on the air. Go back and look.

“One thing Ricky cannot afford is to get tired because if he ever gets tired, Mayweather will explode and take him out,” Steward said.

Or pick him apart, as B-Hop calls it. Ironically, as Steward says this, Mayweather is tapping Ricky with seemingly harmless taps underneath.

Then TWO seconds later, Mayweather connects with a check hook that revealed both Hatton's mental and physical fatigue, leading to Mayweather unloading with what LOOKED like a 19-punch combination.

In reality, it was 19 meticulously measured pot shots in succession, all aimed up top after stabbing him below all night.

This set up the final knockout blow as Mayweather, the superior tactician, goaded him into the very same spot where he hit him in the 8th round. Only this time, he didn't recover…

[B]Stabbing and ripping[/B]
Now there's a difference between getting stabbed and getting ripped. In the last fight, Mayweather didn't just stab him, he ripped him.

One is a tap, the other is a full-force blow. Just brutal.

Now, Maidana is notoriously vulnerable to the body. This is why Mayweather felt so comfortable going into the fight without a game plan. He could languish on the ropes, let the guy shoot his load, rip him underneath and stop him. That was the modus operandi.

So when Maidana came out firing, Mayweather simply stayed composed and ripped him. He fully expected to stop him.

So when I was watching Mayweather stand there, I was watching his work underneath very, very carefully. There's so much subtle sh*t going on in there, mental warfare, mind games.

Whatever people think, Mayweather doesn't go on the ropes — or do anything in life, really — unless he feels comfortable doing so. In the ring, if he's uncomfortable, he'll either start moving/running, start smothering you with his forearm or even go across your throat.

(Case in point Canelo Alvarez. When Canelo gets you on the ropes, he will hit you. So he wasn't going to let that happen.)

Now I was watching Maidana go berzerk on Mayweather. But I also saw Mayweather rip him — not stab, RIP! — with some VICIOUS body shots underneath in the manner B-Hop explains.

I was fully expecting Maidana to crumble any second. I don't care how brittle the hands are, those shots were evil because they were landing in between Maidana's nuclear bombs as he exhaled.

(By comparison, Maidana landed some vicious blows also but they landed while Floyd were defending, not in between his shots.)

Yet… nothing happened. I could see in Floyd's eyes that he was wondering what the F was going on.

As I mentioned, it is a physiological impossibility for you to unload those heavy bombs while getting punched in the gut without fading. It's impossible.

I expected Maidana's fatigue to kick in around the fourth round. Yes, they're world class athletes so the fade isn't as apparent (especially since guys usually fade at the same pace).

In Floyd fights, the telltale sign is usually punches losing about 5-10% of their speed, snap, accuracy while Mayweather's sharpness remains intact.

This is basically how he wins. You drop off, he pulls away. One-sided “action.” Yawn.

However I didn't see any drop-off until the 8th round (!), which is why I sat and scratched my head and looked in amazement at what Maidana was pulling off!

Commish, this is why I said on the air that Maidana was in phenomenal condition. He could probably have run a marathon that night. It was an incredible display.

And as I said in my post-fight post, Maidana impressed me tremendously with his fight plan, his resolve, and his skill. But I also said his stamina impressed me just a little too much. I honestly wondered whether he had trained for Floyd Landis instead of Floyd Mayweather.

[B]The Mysterious Mistress Named Missy[/B]
Now back to why I think he will fade around the fourth this time.

Like I said, my jaw dropped in amazement, which led me to digging. My digging led me to a mysterious mistress named Missy, introduced to him by a local Cali playboy. Let's call him Friscoe.

I don't know exactly how they met. But after Friscoe hooked them up, Missy supposedly inspired Maidana during camp, willing and propelling him to previously unforeseen heights. Love will make you dig deep.

Missy is no longer around.

Once I found out she wasn't, this is when I came directly into these here parts and predicted a vicious, bloody massacre of the likes which we haven't seen since the fall of the temple of Jerusalem.

To compensate for the loss of his little boo thang, according to our sources out west, Maidana's training harder than ever.

He's got a new strength trainer that got him doing Commish-like push-ups, great! He's wearing silly gas masks, great!

He's artificially manipulating the air, he's sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, he's even doing the Macarena in his Burger King crown and blue Speedos while the Earth is a 40 degree axis!

All well and good. (Love will make you do some strange s***.)

But Missy is no longer there. And to quote Joni Mitchell, “you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.”

So Commish, no matter what he does, he won't be able to replicate what he did before. He will not be in better shape. This is why I predict — no, why I know! — he will fade visibly around the fourth round.

He will get destroyed. Mark my words.

If I'm wrong, I will voluntarily go three rounds with Gerry Cooney, film it and upload for the entire TSS Universe to see.

Pardon the dissertation but this is the sweet, sweet science, not layman's combat. Like Radam always says, there are optical illusions everywhere.[/QUOTE]

The above was great Shadow. I have heard B-Hop talk about that before and it is a great listen.

I don't think Maidana fades quite as early as you think but I do agree that he gets smoked in this one. My logic is very simple.

I have seen Maidana fight probably 10 times and all ten of those times he was the exact same Maidana with the only noticeable difference is the intensity of that style. I have seen Floyd fight probably 15 times and I am not sure he has ever been the exact same fighter in any of them. The nuances may be small, but in my eyes they were noticeable.

Floyd is preparing for a fighter that he has tape on, went 12 hard rounds with and has had the exact same style for his entire career. Maidana is going to fight a guy that he has only seen parts of before.

Floyd UD 9-3.

The Commish says:

Great effing post! Great!!!

Ah, the power of love. It drives men to unforseen heights…and to unthinkable depths.

As I am writing this from the gym and about to start my second of three private sessions this morning, I must end this right here, but I will tell you I do totally get it.

However, I have some counter-thoughts here which I will drop in later.

I just may have to video you moving around in the Hoboken Gym ring with Gerry Cooney, get your ribs roasted by his wicked left hook–which is still probably better than any left hook owned by ANY heavyweight today.

Ouch! It hurts just to think about it!

-Randy G.

Radam G says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62530]Great effing post! Great!!!

Ah, the power of love. It drives men to unforseen heights…and to unthinkable depths.

As I am writing this from the gym and about to start my second of three private sessions this morning, I must end this right here, but I will tell you I do totally get it.

However, I have some counter-thoughts here which I will drop in later.

I just may have to video you moving around in the Hoboken Gym ring with Gerry Cooney, get your ribs roasted by his wicked left hook–which is still probably better than any left hook owned by ANY heavyweight today.

Ouch! It hurts just to think about it!

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Because he is a natural lefty. He would have been even more deadlier and a long-reigning heavyweight champ of the world if he would have fought in the southpaw stance. I never understood — other than trainers hating southpaws — why Gentleman G-Co and Pinklon Thomas didn't do the southpaw stance thing. I may have to call your show and holla why. Holla!

deepwater2 says:

That is one bold prediction Shadow.

Hopkins is so right when he talks about stabbing a boxer with punches in between shots,it is one of the best investments in a fight but as with any investment it does come with some risks. Some punches can come through when weathering the storm, especially punches thrown from unconventional angles like hammer fists that MM throws from a 80 degree angle.

I agree with Hopkins about damage from punches from 10 oz gloves add up and have a cumulative effect. Different boxing gloves have a different effect, and that is why Floyd won't let MM wear the everlast mx or Cleto Reyes commission approved gloves. If possible please do an experiment, try on the different brands next time at the gym. Even if the pro fight models aren't available I'm sure you can find a Cleto Reyes or Mexican style spar / gym glove. You will understand the difference. It also means Floyd's punches with these hand protection -styled gloves, won't be doing the maximum damage that he is capable of. Floyd rather protect his hands rather then inflict more damage. He knows what's best for him.

MM has been caught hard to the liver before and seems vulnerable there, so if Mayweather can get a KO it seems that is the chink in Chino's armor.

In regards to the Ricky Hatton fight ,Floyd stabbed Ricky to the body all night but used just as many illegal elbows in the face,throat and chest . Hey it's a fight and I suppose no tactic is illegal until the ref calls it but Joe Cortez caught a lot of flack for letting Floyd use those tactics. A quick YouTube search has 100's of videos showing the fouls and dirty tactics used by Floyd . It is what it is.

I don't know if the mysterious missy thing is just a joke but the man just had a baby with his wife so I hope it's not true. If the mistress is not in camp that is a positive for MM . Women make the legs weak before a fight and the man needs all the testosterone he can. He might be pissed which can be a good thing in the ring if controlled the right way.

I think the fight will go 12 unless MM gets disqualified. I don't see Floyd stopping MM.

How long will you be in NY Shadow? Are you getting any sparring in around the local gyms?

Skibbz says:

Shadow you say that you are or have been a very high level athlete. So you leave me confused when you say that for Maidana to continue to fight full steam after getting hit with “vicious body shots” it is a “physiological impossibility”.

Have you heard of strength of will by any chance? Many fighters have nothing left in their tanks but still push all boundaries their bodies attempt to impose on them by their strength of will and character. The body then begins to cannibalise itself, and for a further amount of time you can sustain your endeavours.

Also if I might just add a further note, the wind you lose from a body shot isn't what kills you, the pain received from punches to your organs and areas of the body that you can not strengthen hurt much more. They will “rock you to your boots” and force every second for the next 10-20 feel like your insides are being torn apart, your veins are about to burst and can make breathing almost impossible.

Maidana isn't the most conditioned athlete, not by a good many miles he hasn't run, but he makes up for it by his sheer strength of will. Whilst Floyd at his current weight doesn't have the power to necessarily keep a natural 147lb fighter off him, he has the ability to disrupt rhythm and score points with precision whip like punches. He certainly did not wind Maidana. He simply reminded him that I am still here with two arms ready to fire at you so don't get complacent with your defence.

Maidana ran out of steam. He fought too hard and fast without much rest and as he started to decline Floyd pushed his offensive pace and mentally that may have begun to destabilise Maidana. By the time Floyd was working through the well oiled gears Maidana was resorting to whatever means he could to get at Floyd.

This time he's had more time to improve his conditioning. He will presumably spar good fighters and use the most valuable tool at his disposal to grab victory this time. Hindsight is weapon that Maidana has that not many have had the the opportunity to employ against Floyd. With this advantage they will have seen where they did well, where they fell short and what they must do this time around to make certain their victory.

To say Maidana is finished in 4 is another wild claim that you can treasure amongst your already wide repertoire.

deepwater2 says:

Hey Skibbz nice advice on the whiskey selection. It seems to me the Scottish island of Islay has some magic in the water. I tried some 10 yr Ardbeg and it was the most complex liquid I have ever come across. It tasted like an ocean breeze followed by peat,lemon,lime,then chocolate and menthol. It's a great experience enjoying it while contemplating life and the meaning of it all. Thanks .

BillyWalters says:

Garcia is definitely one of the top trainers in the game and one of the things he said to Maidana during the 1st episode of All Access was,

'Don't get too close, don't get too so you can still throw the straight right hand.'

Maintaining proper distance is one of the keys to beating Mayweather. Most guys don't have a real understanding of how to control the gap, it's one of the more subtle things that most people don't see but Mayweather is a master of it. Same with Andre Ward. The distance between them and their opponent always favors them. Maidana smothered his work way too much in the first fight. I showed some examples of it during a film study analysis for the rematch.

[URL=”http://rldinvestments.com/FightPredictions/MayweatherVsMaidana.html”>Mayweather vs Maidana Rematch Film Study Analysis[/URL]

The other thing is Garcia can give Maidana the correct instructions but that doesn't mean he's actually going to be able to execute in the ring. He's not all of a sudden going to develop great balance during this training camp. That means that no matter what he does he is eventually going to be out of position. He's not going to all of a sudden develop great footwork or head movement either. Those things aren't about strategy, they're habits that are ingrained in a fighter through years of training. He's going to make big errors and Floyd is going to pick him apart.

Floyd is a master defensive fighter who counterpunches. He's like a master safecracker and he already has the 'çode' Maidana, that's why he dominated the 2nd half of the fight. The speed, rhythm, angles and the distance; Mayweather figured them all out in the last fight. This one's already over.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=deepwater2;62533]That is one bold prediction Shadow.

Hopkins is so right when he talks about stabbing a boxer with punches in between shots,it is one of the best investments in a fight but as with any investment it does come with some risks. Some punches can come through when weathering the storm, especially punches thrown from unconventional angles like hammer fists that MM throws from a 80 degree angle.

I agree with Hopkins about damage from punches from 10 oz gloves add up and have a cumulative effect. Different boxing gloves have a different effect, and that is why Floyd won't let MM wear the everlast mx or Cleto Reyes commission approved gloves. If possible please do an experiment, try on the different brands next time at the gym. Even if the pro fight models aren't available I'm sure you can find a Cleto Reyes or Mexican style spar / gym glove. You will understand the difference. It also means Floyd's punches with these hand protection -styled gloves, won't be doing the maximum damage that he is capable of. Floyd rather protect his hands rather then inflict more damage. He knows what's best for him.

MM has been caught hard to the liver before and seems vulnerable there, so if Mayweather can get a KO it seems that is the chink in Chino's armor.

In regards to the Ricky Hatton fight ,Floyd stabbed Ricky to the body all night but used just as many illegal elbows in the face,throat and chest . Hey it's a fight and I suppose no tactic is illegal until the ref calls it but Joe Cortez caught a lot of flack for letting Floyd use those tactics. A quick YouTube search has 100's of videos showing the fouls and dirty tactics used by Floyd . It is what it is.

I don't know if the mysterious missy thing is just a joke but the man just had a baby with his wife so I hope it's not true. If the mistress is not in camp that is a positive for MM . Women make the legs weak before a fight and the man needs all the testosterone he can. He might be pissed which can be a good thing in the ring if controlled the right way.

I think the fight will go 12 unless MM gets disqualified. I don't see Floyd stopping MM.

How long will you be in NY Shadow? Are you getting any sparring in around the local gyms?[/QUOTE]

Shot you a DM, my man! I'll be around for a bit longer.

Yes, ABSOLUTELY, he did use a lot of forearm/elbowing against Hatton, that's the whole thing. That's where I've seen it the most. When he gets uncomfortable or when a guy tries to overwhelm him that's what he will do.

And Missy is a metaphorical mistress, more like a mascot or secret weapon. I just don't know how else to say it.

But I definitely wouldn't go there (unless it was already public information) because as you said, he just had a baby, he's got a family and his personal business is none of mine.

You make an interesting point though regarding women in camp. They say Ali used to have that in his (I think Radam has chronicled quite a few), along with not training, and you could clearly see him affected during the latter part of his career.

I think your observation is so on point about Mayweather's hands. He'd rather protect his hands than do damage.

He's not only about self preservation, he's about preservation, period! Since he's reached that level where he's guaranteed those sums to fight, he just wants to stay as injury free as possible.

Personally, it's like a mixed feeling. I want to see the guy active because he's a fascinating fighter to study (in the ring) but at the same time he's clearly holding back and doing just enough to win.

Yes, my prediction is quite bold because Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone in a while. Another reason I feel so certain is because they've had Floyd spar some big guys, working on his physical strength.

For that reason, I can just as easily see your scenario unfolding.

Have you ever been in a fight or sparring session where you put in those investment to the body where the guy just completed had nothing left? Or vice versa?

Although they always would say it during fights, I never really knew how bad it felt because pros have such good poker faces.

The first few times I really got hit to the body, I couldn't believe how badly I faded and also how uncomfortable it feels! Body shots are the worst, man.

When I see fights, I sometimes cringe more over some hard body blows than head shots. Good body shots are the only thing I've seen that will leave this tough dudes — who usually shake off punches to the face — grimacing in pain.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Good Doctor;62496]The above was great Shadow. I have heard B-Hop talk about that before and it is a great listen.

I don't think Maidana fades quite as early as you think but I do agree that he gets smoked in this one. My logic is very simple.

I have seen Maidana fight probably 10 times and all ten of those times he was the exact same Maidana with the only noticeable difference is the intensity of that style. I have seen Floyd fight probably 15 times and I am not sure he has ever been the exact same fighter in any of them. The nuances may be small, but in my eyes they were noticeable.

Floyd is preparing for a fighter that he has tape on, went 12 hard rounds with and has had the exact same style for his entire career. Maidana is going to fight a guy that he has only seen parts of before.

Floyd UD 9-3.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Doc. I can easily see that happening also. But keep in mind, 9-3 is what happened the last time, according to one judge. Maybe a less competitive 9-3.

You make an absolutely astute point, however; he never fights guys the exact same way.

It's like Naazim Richardson and Andre Ward say about that whole Bruce Lee martial art philosophy, Floyd's formless like water.

If you pour water into the bottle, it becomes the bottle. If it's in a cup, it becomes the cup. “Water can flow, water can crash.” All that good stuff.

Just like water, Mayweather adapts and becomes whatever he needs to get the victory.

About a week ago I heard Paulie Malignaggi say something very interesting in a recent interview about how to fight him.

Contrary what most people think, Malignaggi said, trying to take his head off is a bad, bad idea.

“What, are you crazy? Are you out of your mind? What, you think it happens that easily? You have to have the ability to win rounds,” Malignaggi said. He also said the key is preventing Mayweather from “becoming the cup” and adapting to your attack.

“Then people are going to say, 'Well, how do you win rounds against the best boxer in the world?' You have to have several game plans and implement them because he's gonna adjust. The guy adjusts, no doubt about it. You're going to go in there with one game plan and he's gonna adjust to it; you better have plan B, C, and D.”

And I think that's the point you made and a very, very intelligent observation about their respective styles.

Like you said, Maidana's style is pretty much the same, with varying degrees of intensity while Mayweather will add subtle, but noticeable, wrinkles to his game.

It should be interesting to see what adjustment shows up. And I gotta say that Garcia has done a fantastic job with Maidana.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=The Commish;62530]Great effing post! Great!!!

Ah, the power of love. It drives men to unforseen heights…and to unthinkable depths.

As I am writing this from the gym and about to start my second of three private sessions this morning, I must end this right here, but I will tell you I do totally get it.

However, I have some counter-thoughts here which I will drop in later.

I just may have to video you moving around in the Hoboken Gym ring with Gerry Cooney, get your ribs roasted by his wicked left hook–which is still probably better than any left hook owned by ANY heavyweight today.

Ouch! It hurts just to think about it!

-Randy G.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Randy! Can't wait to hear the counter-thoughts!

Yes. The power of love cannot be underestimated. Unthinkable depths.

As for Gerry? He don't want that work.

Ha!

Skibbz says:

[QUOTE=deepwater2;62537]Hey Skibbz nice advice on the whiskey selection. It seems to me the Scottish island of Islay has some magic in the water. I tried some 10 yr Ardbeg and it was the most complex liquid I have ever come across. It tasted like an ocean breeze followed by peat,lemon,lime,then chocolate and menthol. It's a great experience enjoying it while contemplating life and the meaning of it all. Thanks .[/QUOTE]

My pleasure Deep I'm glad you found it a great experience. I love the whiskey's of Islay too, the peaty aroma is something else and unique to the region, you seem to have a good nose and palate for the whiskey! I recently picked up a bottle of Dalmore King Alexander III on recommendation of a friend, I shall let you know how that drinks although I'm sure it's good, a Dalmore usually is!